0:02
last time
0:04
when when she says she's running on high
0:07
that also makes her a very effective
0:10
person in the marketplace
0:13
and now
0:14
how do we take care of the senior in
0:17
this dynamic regardless if they're the
0:19
one that's talking to us and how do we
0:21
wrap around the caregiver
0:23
and the thing about it is is that
0:26
we all have the same experiences we how
0:28
all are dealing with very similar things
0:31
in our lives which makes you know
0:34
personally i think my team's amazing it
0:36
makes our team amazing because we know
0:39
what they're dealing with we're not just
0:41
you know
0:42
deciding like hey you know because
0:44
something that's happened in our
0:45
industry is that the senior market
0:48
as everybody knows is booming right all
0:50
the baby boomers are coming through and
0:52
that means that there are
0:54
businesses and positions that can be uh
0:58
developed or opened or whatnot
1:01
and there's a lot of people in the space
1:02
that say this is the next wave i'm
1:04
jumping in
1:05
the difference is is that and you know
1:08
even when i opened up tea and toast
1:10
eight years ago i have been i was in the
1:12
industry for about 10 years before that
1:16
and everybody's like oh yeah good you
1:18
know jumping on the bandwagon it's like
1:19
i've been living on this bandwagon yeah
1:22
for a long time and my advice is also
1:24
we've been living these experiences and
1:27
i've been working with these experiences
1:30
and
1:31
what you said about the brick wall
1:34
was interesting because the thing is is
1:36
that
1:37
we're trying to teach people and that's
1:39
also why i do this podcast i'm trying to
1:41
teach people that
1:42
yes there's a brick wall we're trying to
1:44
get whatever it is
1:46
but what i want you to consider is
1:49
there's a brick wall
1:50
the pain of whatever you're doing the
1:53
emotional stress whatever it is will end
1:56
or ease
1:57
at the brick wall
1:59
but if you don't take care of yourself
2:01
up to the brick wall you will hit that
2:02
brick wall and you will miss what's on
2:04
the other side
2:06
that's right that's right
2:08
there there is a reason when you're on
2:10
the plane that they tell you to put your
2:12
air mask on first before you do it on
2:15
somebody else because
2:17
if you can't take care of yourself then
2:18
how can you take care of anybody uh the
2:20
person sitting next to you
2:22
like that actually well
2:24
i was gonna say sean with that with that
2:26
analogy as well
2:27
that's actually that analogy
2:30
specifically
2:31
uh about i don't know how many years we
2:34
are 12 years now is what got me out of
2:37
an abusive marriage
2:39
oh goodness 12 years ago i thought i
2:41
kept thinking to myself
2:43
put your ear mask on first put your mask
2:45
on first take care of yourself and i
2:47
literally wrote it out of my marriage
2:50
and it was
2:52
life obviously life-changing i was in an
2:54
abusive marriage it was like
2:57
and you know that is you know what i say
3:00
to many people right it's like you know
3:03
you just have to figure out your way it
3:05
doesn't have to look like that book or
3:07
this podcast or that book doesn't look
3:09
like that way just figure out what works
3:11
for you and take a breath because you're
3:13
not
3:15
you're not helping yourself but you're
3:16
also not helping the people you're
3:17
carrying with if you're out
3:20
yeah yeah no you you uh you reminded me
3:23
of another analogy actually uh i'm sorry
3:25
i'm on and off the glasses my glasses
3:27
have more
3:28
fingerprints than i think the rcmp i'm
3:31
not sure
3:32
um but uh the uh
3:35
i i remember at one point i was talking
3:36
to a friend of mine about the problem
3:38
with technology now compared to the
3:41
compared to 30 years ago
3:43
and 30 years ago
3:46
let's just say a computer let's just say
3:48
a laptop whatever
3:50
and or then a computer
3:52
that would take up half of your desk
3:55
came along and you would use it for a
3:57
couple of years
3:59
maybe three maybe four
4:00
and the next generation that would come
4:02
out
4:03
and usually
4:05
they would take some of that feedback
4:07
that consumers had taken
4:09
uh and and apply it to this new version
4:12
and there was time there was time to
4:14
have that
4:16
experience with the computer to figure
4:18
out what the real bugs were what what
4:20
the real uh blind spots were where they
4:22
weren't serving you as well as they
4:24
could maybe they weren't as
4:26
intrinsically responsive or whatever
4:28
right
4:30
now
4:32
you get a cell phone
4:34
and you're using it
4:36
and you blink
4:37
and there's a new version of that cell
4:39
phone
4:41
and you're like oh wait i just figured
4:42
out how to use that how do i do this now
4:44
and i don't mean to sound like a
4:45
dinosaur or a luddite but i i'm there
4:48
going wait a second i just
4:50
and then i'm there oh that's great and
4:52
then you blink and there's another
4:54
version of it and it's like that with
4:56
cell phones now it's like that with
4:59
pretty much everything technological
5:02
to a point where
5:04
uh when i go to garage sales i i look
5:06
for older tools
5:08
i don't want the new drill
5:11
that can you know do your laundry for
5:13
you as well i i don't i don't need that
5:15
um
5:16
but let's you know you reminded me of
5:19
something and
5:20
talking about serving families and
5:22
helping them out and whatever
5:24
um and
5:25
they go whatever but you know you know
5:27
what i mean um
5:29
i i was listening to that
5:32
and one of the things that
5:34
i was telling a friend about a little
5:35
while ago
5:38
it starts and maybe right now we could
5:40
just
5:42
talk about this i bet you we can come up
5:43
with a pretty good informal top five
5:45
list of things to do
5:48
it starts with hard conversations
5:51
it starts with hard conversations
5:53
the caregiver the the son the daughter
5:55
the
5:56
the the husband the wife you know i'm
5:58
sure my mom and dad had those
6:01
conversations clearly without my sister
6:04
or myself in the room
6:06
but at one point i i remember saying hey
6:09
let me tell you what happened at work
6:11
last week
6:12
what i saw last week and
6:15
they're of that age
6:17
that they've witnessed that too
6:19
you know if if they're in their 70s
6:21
while their friends that they've known
6:22
for years or in their 70s so they've
6:24
witnessed it and sometimes it's that
6:26
reminder but
6:27
when you start that conversation and we
6:30
had to go through this my wife and i
6:32
when we had our son that we had talked
6:34
about a will
6:36
and the little tiny legal intricacies of
6:39
a will
6:41
kept me up at night
6:43
and it kept my wife up at night and i
6:45
don't want to say we argued but we were
6:47
there at different points going well
6:49
this would look like this and this would
6:50
that look like that
6:52
and then all of a sudden you're in a
6:53
mindset
6:55
of thinking about those what-ifs and
6:58
those scenarios
7:00
and all of a sudden you're bummed out at
7:02
work
7:04
all of a sudden you're at work and
7:05
they're going oh man and you're thinking
7:07
about those scenarios that are terrible
7:11
and they're hard to talk about and
7:13
they're painful to think about and
7:16
they're necessary
7:18
i am i had the experience with with mike
7:22
and his dad when we had to actually
7:25
professionally broach the conversation
7:27
of him coming here
7:29
and it was really interesting because
7:31
i've been doing what i do
7:33
for like almost 20 years
7:35
and
7:36
i
7:37
wanted mike to leave because it's his
7:39
dad but i find
7:42
you know generally in my experience that
7:45
son and dad men don't have conversations
7:48
as easy as women
7:50
and so i was letting him lead
7:52
and you're gonna get me emotional i was
7:55
letting him lead and
7:56
there was just this weird break and i
7:58
was like
7:59
i'm just gonna have to put on my tea and
8:01
toast i'm just gonna have to like do
8:03
this right and so i looked at him
8:05
and i said can i and he's like yeah and
8:08
i just
8:09
i i did it more blatant than i would
8:13
with my own clients because i am softer
8:15
in my you know with my caregivers and my
8:18
clients i want i get to the same things
8:19
but i'm softer and i sent to them i said
8:22
look
8:24
here's the situation you're eight hours
8:26
away
8:27
if something something will happen not
8:30
if when
8:31
there will be a crisis
8:33
i can't get there
8:34
we're dealing with it you know other
8:36
house money situation as well that i
8:38
won't get into and i said
8:40
we need to deal with this
8:42
and i said you know bottom line i was
8:44
really really honest and i tend to be
8:46
honest with my families too again i'm
8:48
softer and i'm soft with him too but i
8:50
said you know bottom line is that
8:52
down the way if and when you need to
8:55
have
8:56
a long-term care home or retirement or
8:57
whatever i don't want to put you in a
8:59
crap hole i said different words
9:02
but i'm like i don't want to do that
9:04
so let's fix it because
9:06
you're far away you haven't really been
9:09
in our lives because you're so far away
9:11
i have a four-year-old she wants to see
9:13
you i know living together is going to
9:15
be difficult and if it doesn't work
9:17
we'll make another plan
9:19
let's just take a step
9:21
and it got him it was it was it he
9:23
actually understood and he's like okay
9:25
let's do this and it was like
9:27
i i you know kind of pride myself on
9:29
hard conversations but i have to say my
9:31
parents will be watching as well our
9:33
conversations in our own family are more
9:36
difficult
9:37
and that's why
9:39
you know that's one of the reasons
9:40
tiantos exist because i can have a
9:42
conversation sean with your family
9:45
that they'll listen i can have the same
9:47
conversation with my family and they'll
9:48
think i'm enough
9:50
yeah yeah yeah that's that's how it goes
9:53
but like that is really the first step
9:56
and you know what the funny thing is is
9:59
sometimes
10:00
even if they don't respond to it
10:02
immediately
10:05
the the bug has been planted
10:07
and the key words that you use there too
10:11
and this isn't just them by the way this
10:14
is us as well
10:15
like
10:16
one day we are going to
10:19
get ill
10:21
or or we are going to our lives are
10:23
going to change drastically
10:25
and it kind of came down to for for my
10:27
parents i i think that
10:30
part of their downsizing and my mom used
10:32
to say you know we can't do the driveway
10:34
anymore
10:35
uh we the the lawns uh difficult for us
10:37
with the humidity
10:39
and i think it came down to them
10:41
and i think for a lot of people who
10:43
downsized
10:44
it decisions made on their terms
10:48
because a lot of people who i i was um
10:51
dealing with at that long-term care
10:53
facility and i'm not saying that we're
10:55
all going to end up there that's not
10:56
what i'm saying
10:57
at all but
10:59
they were dealing with changes that came
11:01
in their lives not on their terms
11:04
right that's that's what we they were
11:06
dealing with
11:07
and uh you know that happens in life too
11:11
as part of the human experience right um
11:14
what one of it was on that note i also
11:17
have been giving mike advice and i
11:19
actually said to him like i hope that
11:20
you don't think i'm pompous or anything
11:22
like i'm actually actively giving him
11:25
advice and yesterday was not it was just
11:27
the same and i said like he's like
11:29
let's do this and i'll tell dad to do
11:31
this and i said listen
11:33
you know your dad whether he knows it or
11:36
not
11:37
is going to be grieving
11:39
he's going to be grieving when he gets
11:41
here he's going to be grieving possibly
11:43
not bringing his cat depending on the
11:44
situation as it unfolds
11:46
but currently unfolding um his house his
11:50
life his art studio all the stuff he's
11:53
going to be grieving
11:54
you need to make sure that you don't
11:56
come at him
11:58
but you present options and say these
12:01
are how i see it
12:02
what what do you feel how do you feel
12:04
about it do you agree because
12:07
you if you try to make the decision for
12:09
him
12:10
you may get pushed back and it might
12:12
make it worse it might make the grieving
12:14
worse it might make anything and so you
12:16
need to be really aware
12:18
that this is happening whether people
12:20
know that they're grieving or not if you
12:22
are a caregiver you were grieving in
12:23
some form usually
12:25
even me i got out of the shower that
12:27
very same day and i said look husband
12:29
i'm grieving i didn't realize it until i
12:31
literally had that conversation with you
12:33
and i was in the shower and i was like
12:35
my life's about to change
12:37
like a hundred percent and i'm grieving
12:39
and it doesn't mean it's the wrong
12:40
decision it just means that these are
12:41
the emotions that are attached to it
12:44
yeah that's that's really interesting
12:47
that's really interesting i i find as
12:49
well
12:50
you know uh bringing on that kind of
12:52
change the the
12:55
you you mentioned something about yeah
12:56
you know mike's i'm going to tell him
12:58
and i've learned a couple of things and
13:00
i'm going to
13:01
bring this to another direction in a
13:02
second
13:04
um
13:05
my you know my parents or your parents
13:07
or whoever's the elders among us
13:11
they're survivors
13:13
they're builders
13:14
they got by made their career and made
13:17
their lives with a lot less resources
13:19
than we had
13:20
a lot less resources
13:22
and a couple of times i've thought to
13:24
myself oh i'm you know mom and dad i
13:25
need to do this or mom and dad need do
13:27
that and that would that's what would be
13:28
best right like
13:30
there i am
13:32
a full generation younger than them oh
13:34
i'm going to tell them what they need to
13:35
do
13:37
right
13:38
at your approach of
13:39
hey here's options
13:42
that you might not have been aware of
13:44
these are the options because
13:47
you
13:48
fellas are the
13:50
builders the experienced people and i'm
13:53
not being condescending or patronized
13:55
when i say that i'm being
13:56
authentic and genuine because
13:59
that that is the reality a friend of
14:02
mine
14:03
i think she was talking to her elder
14:05
aunt
14:06
or somebody like that
14:08
and uh she has moved into a retirement
14:11
community and she said she can't get
14:13
past how
14:14
younger people talk to her
14:17
and i said what do you mean and she said
14:19
um she said that you know she was an
14:22
accomplished academic
14:24
accompli i believe was an academic she
14:26
was accomplished in her career
14:29
a builder of sorts you know a community
14:31
builder
14:32
and then
14:33
she'll say something as an elder
14:36
and
14:37
younger people will say well isn't that
14:39
nice
14:42
right
14:42
or or you know and at one point she said
14:45
how did i go from
14:48
being assertive
14:50
and known as a doer
14:52
somebody who gets things done
14:55
to being a firecracker it's a real
14:57
firecracker that one
14:59
how do you make that transition how did
15:01
that happen she said
15:03
right so i i i'm saying that in that
15:07
if i ever tried to talk to my parents
15:09
like that they would um put me in line
15:12
pretty quick like that's just who they
15:14
are
15:15
um and number two who who do i think i
15:18
am
15:19
to try to make a decision for my parents
15:21
if they're if they're of the sound mind
15:23
but
15:24
that brings about the conversation and
15:26
we can go on another five hours about
15:27
this
15:28
the hard conversations the living will
15:32
needs to be a conversation that people
15:34
have to have but i i will say this while
15:36
i've got an audience of of caregivers
15:38
out there um
15:41
you're in a restaurant you're at a
15:43
coffee shop
15:44
and an elder tries to
15:47
interject in the conversation and yeah
15:49
you know you talk to them whatever
15:51
on the way
15:52
out make a point of
15:55
of saying hey
15:57
nice to see you
15:58
[Music]
15:59
that was that was really smart what you
16:01
said if it was really smart or say it
16:03
was really nice to talk to you or
16:04
whatever
16:05
because after i heard that about what
16:07
happened after i heard about that
16:09
i started listening
16:11
and watching the way people talk to and
16:13
about elders
16:16
and then i thought
16:18
we need
16:19
to go out of our way now because
16:23
best intentions a lot of people
16:25
oh well isn't that nice you know
16:29
their best intentions we now have to
16:31
correct that and almost overcompensate
16:33
for it
16:35
[Music]
16:38
i think that that like isn't that nice
16:40
also comes down to
16:42
you know especially like for folks
16:44
especially who don't have any background
16:46
with that person as well right it's like
16:49
we we know that they're not trying to be
16:51
condescending or whatnot but i think
16:53
it's because
16:55
they don't know how to build on that
16:56
conversation
16:58
and they're presenting like in
17:00
retirement long-term care and things
17:01
like that they're presenting options or
17:03
you know depending on what it is and
17:05
it's like so these people are coming
17:07
into their lives and they need to have
17:09
conversations with them and they don't
17:10
have conversations with them the other
17:12
thing i see too constantly when i'm on
17:14
tour that drives me batty
17:16
is that a lot of people say well this is
17:19
our little dining room and this is our
17:21
little activity room and i'm thinking to
17:23
myself they're not children
17:26
right like if you say this is our cute
17:29
little this is our little like that's
17:30
really taking something away of actually
17:35
actively choosing a new retirement home
17:38
choosing a new home
17:40
that you as a senior is going to move
17:42
into
17:43
usually all faculties all cognition
17:45
everything right and it's you know
17:47
definitely there's always you know
17:49
there's always the
17:50
other amount of people that have
17:52
dementia cognitive you know there's a
17:54
lot of other things going on with
17:55
cognition but what i'm talking about is
17:57
literally just an independent senior
17:59
looking to make a move
18:01
and then they're met with these folks
18:03
that don't know how to have
18:03
conversations with them
18:06
and don't know how to show them
18:08
how
18:09
their little dining room
18:11
isn't this cute little dining room this
18:13
is this is the new spot
18:15
that you are going to have meals so that
18:17
you're no longer having meals alone
18:20
um having someone help you
18:22
cook the meals perhaps meeting new
18:25
friends perhaps not maybe you want to
18:26
sit alone it's not this cute little
18:29
dining room this is a dining experience
18:31
that you no longer have to maybe dine
18:34
alone and this is what it can give you
18:36
hey you know amy you know my background
18:38
is marketing and business development
18:41
and i remember at one point i was
18:42
talking to
18:44
a neighbor
18:45
and uh you know it shocks me and i'm
18:48
going to tell you this shocks me from
18:49
every vertical whether it's seniors care
18:52
or if it's um oh it's a better one
18:56
as
18:57
software sales let's just say
19:00
a lot of companies and organizations and
19:02
the retirement community is terrible for
19:05
this
19:06
i was talking to this friend of mine
19:08
i don't know that well
19:10
and she had a
19:12
a role within a senior's home
19:15
senior president
19:16
and she had injured she got injured
19:18
somehow
19:20
and so what do you think they did
19:23
they put her in a sales role
19:27
and i said what they said oh yeah you'll
19:28
be great in sales you're always very
19:30
friendly and whatever
19:32
and as a person who has
19:35
gone over
19:36
one of the things i like to do in any
19:38
marketing or or sales scenario
19:41
is i like to go through the transaction
19:43
journey from the time they first hear
19:45
about the organization or they haven't
19:47
heard about it and they need to be
19:49
enlightened to it
19:50
until they they do the transaction and
19:53
beyond
19:54
i like to to review that journey
19:57
and at
19:58
one point this is the the biggest waste
20:00
of resources uh
20:02
not just the resources of the company
20:04
what they invest to to
20:06
have the person come in but also the
20:08
resources of the visitor
20:11
coming to see the place
20:14
exactly what you said let's just say
20:15
it's a a lovely dining hall to say it's
20:18
a lovely place to live let's say it's a
20:20
wonderful
20:21
example of what life could be
20:24
but they found the person giving them
20:26
the tour was condescending
20:28
and looked at the their son or daughter
20:31
and said
20:32
why would i want to live in a place
20:33
where they talk to me like that there's
20:36
a lot of people that choose not to move
20:38
because the marketer
20:40
did not treat them properly and it's
20:43
there's so many people we have to say
20:44
you know what they're kind of the first
20:46
person in like you that's who we deal
20:48
with but after that you're not going to
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talk to them that much because that's
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who it is but that's the thing that's
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what people don't realize
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it's like you're the fate
20:56
if you're the marketer you're the face
20:59
that people come into i used to get
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known well because when people would
21:03
come to me say i was a caregiver and a
21:06
senior for instance
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in my mind and as should be anybody the
21:11
seniors the character the seniors the
21:12
decision maker and so all my
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conversation
21:16
is always directed to my senior i don't
21:19
care if they have cognition issues
21:21
nothing i know
21:23
whoever's with them can hear me i know
21:26
usually they won't take offense
21:28
and i used to actually even walk
21:30
backwards i was so people would kind of
21:32
always comment on because i was always
21:33
wearing heels when i used to work in the
21:34
retirement home and i always walked
21:36
backwards and people were like
21:39
like she going to trip
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and it's like no i haven't like no
21:42
worries right i do this all the time but
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it's like because i wanted to let them
21:45
know i was still paying attention to
21:47
them instead of walking in front of them
21:48
where they couldn't see my face
21:51
it made no difference to me i know how
21:52
to walk backwards and i got pretty
21:54
skilled i have to tell you but it was
21:56
one of those conversations things that
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people were shocked with and it's still
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you know even when i
22:02
have people come to me
22:03
say my mom has dementia she doesn't want
22:06
to move we can't get there can you come
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talk to them i'll come talk to her in
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the house and usually
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i can get that person
22:14
to to get on board with making a move
22:17
and it's because
22:19
it's their decision
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it's their decision i know that there's
22:23
definitely things
22:24
that you as a caregiver need to help and
22:27
put your foot down
22:28
and i understand that and i respect that
22:31
but if you don't treat the peoples who
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decision it is
22:35
properly and give them the floor and let
22:38
them say
22:39
i love this i hate this i don't want to
22:41
do this and this is why and these are my
22:43
objections and whatnot you're never
22:45
going to get there
22:47
no not not in a million years i i think
22:49
we got to wrap this up because soon i i
22:52
think that
22:53
you know they're going to shut the
22:54
lights off in this place and this is my
22:55
house for god's sake so but i hear my
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daughter
23:00
tiptoeing outside the door and i was
23:01
like okay is she going to do it where's
23:03
the dog
23:05
i i did want to kind of there's a couple
23:07
things i had in mind that i did want to
23:08
share with everybody while i have this
23:10
audience and if i could just
23:12
get that in before we leave because
23:14
to me when it comes to
23:16
uh having somebody in your life an elder
23:18
in your life this is crucial
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and crucial from
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the the
23:24
physical health and
23:26
and well-being of a person but also
23:29
the tax implications because of where i
23:31
work and i've seen this happen at tax
23:32
wise a million times
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if you have a person in your life who
23:37
they have a medical condition or they
23:39
have an impairment more specifically and
23:41
it's progressing one way the other it's
23:43
either improving or it's
23:45
it's not improving
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document that
23:49
keep a book
23:51
near the fridge
23:54
this is the date
23:55
uh the the and and be measured about it
23:58
you know i cannot walk
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more than uh or the the pace of walking
24:04
has decreased significantly
24:06
uh cannot walk a hundred yards without
24:08
stopping for a break or taking
24:10
significantly longer um arthritis is so
24:13
bad can't do buttons on a shirt anymore
24:16
uh uh arthritis about i can't do laces
24:18
on a boot can't operate a manual can
24:21
opener and the reason for it is twofold
24:24
the first one
24:26
sorry you write it down
24:28
you take a copy of it and you give it to
24:30
your doctor when you go for the next
24:32
appointment whatever it is and you
24:34
insist that the doctor takes that copy
24:36
and puts it in their folder
24:38
and you're probably thinking why well
24:40
you always want your doctor to know the
24:42
progression of your condition
24:43
number one like that's just for a
24:46
physical
24:47
health wellness scenario
24:50
but number two
24:52
and we've experienced this numerous
24:54
numerous times
24:56
we'll have somebody come into our office
24:59
and i'll see them walking in
25:01
and you can tell right away that they
25:03
have an impairment they have a mobility
25:04
impairment
25:06
and oh can you help us through this i'll
25:09
say sure and we have people there who
25:10
work with the doctors to get these forms
25:12
filled out
25:13
and the doctor will call us back and
25:15
they'll say
25:16
they don't have a mobility impairment
25:19
and i'll say what do you mean well they
25:20
don't
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and the doctor will look back in their
25:24
files and they can't find anything
25:27
of a progressive
25:29
mobility impairment think about when
25:31
you're in a doctor's office as well do
25:33
they see you walk
25:35
right especially if it's for a hundred
25:36
yards do they really notice that your
25:39
your arthritis is to a point where you
25:40
can't do a button
25:42
you know in fact
25:44
i find a lot of people in that
25:45
generation are well the older generation
25:48
than than
25:50
i i wouldn't even say beyond boomers
25:53
you know i might
25:54
my friend his dad used to get dressed up
25:57
to go to the doctor like he was going to
25:59
church
26:01
he'd be in his sunday's best
26:03
and then the doctor the doctor would say
26:05
how was your walking he said boy i could
26:07
walk to montreal if i wanted to
26:09
and meanwhile i couldn't get across the
26:10
kitchen floor without stopping for a
26:12
break
26:14
but that being said i'm not saying
26:16
documented because people exaggerate
26:18
i'm saying that everything has an
26:19
implication
26:20
and it's a physical one sometimes and
26:22
there's a tax implication too
26:25
the more your doctor knows and has on
26:27
file physically has on file
26:30
just it's like having that conversation
26:33
early
26:34
that preventative conversation early
26:35
early and for the folks that you know i
26:38
can walk to montreal type of scenario
26:40
that comes more so in my experience out
26:43
of a fear of losing it all
26:46
right and so
26:47
you go to the doctor that you know
26:50
anybody all of us are constantly
26:53
we're trying to remain independent
26:56
but you get to align when you become a
26:58
senior
26:59
where you are constantly defending your
27:02
independence
27:04
and so
27:05
every every appointment from that line
27:08
on
27:09
it's up to you to prove your
27:10
independence because if you don't prove
27:12
your independence you're not independent
27:14
and that i mean for right or wrong
27:16
that's the thing right and so that's why
27:19
i find that sometimes people are so
27:22
fiercely independent it's to a fault
27:25
you know use the cane if you need it
27:27
use the walker if you need it because
27:29
that's going to keep you independent
27:32
right yes absolutely
27:34
i think i think we should probably end
27:36
it on that amy or i i'm gonna have to
27:38
take my jacket off and get more
27:40
comfortable because uh
27:41
we've been here for an hour
27:44
i know right well i wanna thank you sean
27:47
for coming on
27:48
i'm hoping this conversation is helpful
27:52
to our audience and um and hopefully
27:55
they can grab a cup of coffee and and
27:58
stick with us for it so thank you so
28:00
much for joining me and just being super
28:03
candid with me i think that the more of
28:06
us that our caregivers but also
28:08
professionals
28:10
are more candid the more information and
28:12
help we can and offer to our folks
28:16
i hope that you've found value in what
28:18
we've been talking today and that you
28:20
can like and share with your networks a
28:22
lot of caregivers just want to know that
28:24
they're doing an all right job and that
28:26
everybody else has very similar
28:28
experiences and that there is help out
28:30
there
28:31
so from me to all of you i hope that you
28:34
have a wonderful wednesday
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